# New 2024 California (Multivan) Brochure & Price List **Source:** https://vwcaliforniaclub.com/threads/new-2024-california-multivan-brochure-price-list.56321/ **Posts:** 25 --- ### — 2024-11-07T18:15:10+0100 (Nov 7, 2024) 2024 New Multivan based California brochure. --- ### — 2024-11-07T18:30:08+0100 (Nov 7, 2024) thanks for posting. lots to absorb - no interest in the new Beach for my next van (am I also reading it right there's no roof bed?) and weighing-up differences between the Coast & Ocean. I'm not bothered about the IQ lights & powered roof, but £3,120 is a big ask for a heater ... --- ### — 2024-11-07T20:03:22+0100 (Nov 7, 2024) Love how they highlight that the bed is 5cm longer but forget to mention it’s a lot narrower ![;)](data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7 "Wink ;)") Looks nice. Option list is a lot shorter than for the T6.1. Electric roof is now standard on both the Coast and the Ocean. And the Discover Pro infotainment system is now standard on the Ocean. You can now spec a carpet in the living area! And you can spec the wireless phone charger (wasn’t available in the UK previously). The towbar is now retractable rather than removable. Oddly enough, there’s no mention of the shower attachment at the back nor any pictures of it. The two-tone colors are just awful ![:talktothehand](/data/customsmile/facepalm.png "Facepalm :talktothehand") Shame. But really well spec’d as standard for sure. --- ### — 2024-11-07T20:19:44+0100 (Nov 7, 2024) It seems that other than an option on the Beach, there’s no spare wheel! That my absolute bugbear on vehicles. I’d be constantly paranoid about being in more remote areas. It’s not for me. Too long, bed too narrow, limited storage, no spare wheel, expensive. --- ### — 2024-11-07T20:30:02+0100 (Nov 7, 2024) > [Elmo3 said:](/goto/post?id=729621) > > It seems that other than an option on the Beach, there’s no spare wheel! > > Click to expand... Looking at the available payloads it seems like weight is a problem. --- ### — 2024-11-07T20:38:03+0100 (Nov 7, 2024) > [andyinluton said:](/goto/post?id=729622) > > Looking at the available payloads it seems like weight is a problem. > > Click to expand... 413kg payload for the diesel Ocean. What is it on the equivalent 6.1? ETA. 509kg on 6.1 Ocean 150 --- ### — 2024-11-07T20:52:34+0100 (Nov 7, 2024) > [Elmo3 said:](/goto/post?id=729623) > > 413kg payload for the diesel Ocean. What is it on the equivalent 6.1? > > ETA. 509kg on 6.1 Ocean 150 > > Click to expand... Minimum allowed at registration follows a strict formula 10kg per m in length of vehicle = 60kg 10kg per berth = 40Kg 75kg per belted passenger seat = 300kg ( for a four seater) You would not be able to register a new Ocean with less than 400kg of payload or 485KG for a Beach This has been a problem on the 3500kg grand Californias with different combinations of extras not being allowed without a weight upgrade . I don't know if its a typo but the 204 engine looks to weigh a substantial amount less than the 150 A quick comparison shows that the Ocean weighs a hefty 251kg more than the equivalent size 7 seat multivan --- ### — 2024-11-07T22:04:40+0100 (Nov 7, 2024) > [andyinluton said:](/goto/post?id=729625) > > A quick comparison shows that the Ocean weighs a hefty 251kg more than the equivalent size 7 seat multivan > > Click to expand... That is about the same difference between a Tx Multivan and a Ax California. Mine is "empty" between 2400 and 2500kg. My dad's T6 Multivan is about 2200kg. --- ### O — 2024-11-08T09:29:11+0100 (Nov 8, 2024) Towing capacity now been reduced again to 2t so I’m out with my boat - glad I kept to T6.1 this summer and didn’t hang on , what a disappointment this will be to many and less practical --- ### R — 2024-11-08T10:14:46+0100 (Nov 8, 2024) No 204PS diesel... only 150ps diesel or a 204PS petrol (hybrid comes later) --- ### — 2024-11-08T17:30:43+0100 (Nov 8, 2024) There no doubt that this is an interior upgrade but for me its all about storage space. Our 6.1 has just enough cupboard spacefor long treks, the 7 seems to sacrifice too much space for a second sliding door and room for the passenger chair to swivel nicely, neither of which we need. --- ### — 2024-11-08T18:25:40+0100 (Nov 8, 2024) Seems we’re looking at about 80K for an Ocean diesel. Chatting to the dealer and the margin structure is apparently very different on these, so don’t expect much, if any discount. --- ### — 2024-11-08T21:00:02+0100 (Nov 8, 2024) I just noticed that the height is below the 2m mark. Which is essential here in England at least given the proliferation of barriers. However it’s noted “with lowered suspension “ which is not mentioned elsewhere. Cost ? --- ### — 2024-11-09T08:36:33+0100 (Nov 9, 2024) I see VW still can’t afford someone to proof read their brochures! After looking at the costs regarding paint, it mentions Florida Beach blue, which is not shown in the photos. It is the Medium blue (Y5Y5) but you would think VW would pick this up prior to release! The Multivan just doesn’t look right to me but does look a lot better with the bigger wheels but these are not available on the Beach. It’s the same story that the Beach can’t be made to look as good as the Ocean in the UK for some stupid reason. Essential Parking heater is still a £3120 option on the Beach and also on Coast, thought this maybe standard by now. --- ### — 2024-11-09T13:25:09+0100 (Nov 9, 2024) > [The Tall Luthier said:](/goto/post?id=729734) > > There no doubt that this is an interior upgrade but for me its all about storage space. Our 6.1 has just enough cupboard spacefor long treks, the 7 seems to sacrifice too much space for a second sliding door and room for the passenger chair to swivel nicely, neither of which we need. > > Click to expand... My wife just sent me this catalogue, and listed out all of the things like this that make it worse than the 6.1 - storage, table, beds, one burner (what’s the point?)… perhaps they imagine there’s a group of people who won’t swap a 6.1 for this, but who have never owned one before? But it all feels like a massive downgrade in practical usability. (We have a 15 & 12 yo and a small dog, current set up with awning works really well) Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk --- ### — 2024-11-09T15:22:17+0100 (Nov 9, 2024) > [VanHelsing said:](/goto/post?id=729791) > > My wife just sent me this catalogue, and listed out all of the things like this that make it worse than the 6.1 - storage, table, beds, one burner (what’s the point?)… perhaps they imagine there’s a group of people who won’t swap a 6.1 for this, but who have never owned one before? But it all feels like a massive downgrade in practical usability. > > (We have a 15 & 12 yo and a small dog, current set up with awning works really well) > > Click to expand... Always possible VW made a mistake. But I imagine that they looked at the market and saw that people who can afford something like this are by and large whealhty retired couples who only use their van in the summer months, only ever stay at campsites, don’t cook in the van, only ever use the hob to occasionally boil water for tea, and don’t need a huge amount of storage since it’s just the two of them. It’s no longer a family-friendly camper. But I can only imagine that this was a small enough niche that it did not matter. --- ### M — 2024-11-09T18:40:31+0100 (Nov 9, 2024) roof load is increased.. no mention of 'closed'. ![o_O](data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7 "Er... what? o_O") --- ### T — 2024-11-10T09:18:42+0100 (Nov 10, 2024) > [Mehdime said:](/goto/post?id=729805) > > Always possible VW made a mistake. But I imagine that they looked at the market and saw that people who can afford something like this are by and large whealhty retired couples who only use their van in the summer months, only ever stay at campsites, don’t cook in the van, only ever use the hob to occasionally boil water for tea, and don’t need a huge amount of storage since it’s just the two of them. > > It’s no longer a family-friendly camper. But I can only imagine that this was a small enough niche that it did not matter. > > Click to expand... The problem with them old retired couples is a lot of them have grandchildren, which they love to have a holiday with once or twice a year (or more likely when the parents can’t get time off work over the summer holidays). Although I like the look of the new Cali, it’s gone from being a practical and functional vehicle (maximising every inch of space) For now we will be sticking with the T6.1 --- ### — 2024-11-10T09:37:06+0100 (Nov 10, 2024) > [larrylamb said:](/goto/post?id=729604) > > 2024 New Multivan based California brochure. > > Click to expand... --- ### — 2024-11-10T09:40:31+0100 (Nov 10, 2024) The Multivan platform based California now makes the Marco Polo a serious competitor. Make of that statement what you will. --- ### B — 2024-11-10T09:43:03+0100 (Nov 10, 2024) And us, ‘two retirees + black lab’, we’ll be sticking with our T6 Ocean, built for travellers who like camping. ![IMG_5849.jpeg](images\img_5849-jpeg.130578 "IMG_5849.jpeg") ![IMG_5944.jpeg](images\img_5944-jpeg.130579 "IMG_5944.jpeg") ![IMG_5945.jpeg](images\img_5945-jpeg.130580 "IMG_5945.jpeg") --- ### — 2024-11-10T10:51:54+0100 (Nov 10, 2024) > [VanHelsing said:](/goto/post?id=729791) > > My wife just sent me this catalogue, and listed out all of the things like this that make it worse than the 6.1 - storage, table, beds, one burner (what’s the point?)… perhaps they imagine there’s a group of people who won’t swap a 6.1 for this, but who have never owned one before? But it all feels like a massive downgrade in practical usability. > > (We have a 15 & 12 yo and a small dog, current set up with awning works really well) > > > Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk > > Click to expand... Lordy lord!!! I didn’t notice the lack of an indoor table. Now mine rattles like crazy, but I can live with that as it’s so bloomin useful. What kind of numbnut designed this thing? My best guess is since one who enjoys a lot more sunshine hours and centigrades than I do? --- ### — 2024-11-10T11:22:07+0100 (Nov 10, 2024) > [The Tall Luthier said:](/goto/post?id=729888) > > ... Now mine rattles like crazy ... > > Click to expand... Just a thought: ![vwcaliforniaclub.com](images\metalogo.png) ### [Storing my T6.1 Ocean hinged table smoothly, in short: pull then push](https://vwcaliforniaclub.com/threads/storing-my-t6-1-ocean-hinged-table-smoothly-in-short-pull-then-push.55513/post-719066) Over two years of ownership I have struggled to find the best way to stow away the folding table. My wife gave up early days and always leaves it to me. Getting it out is never a problem once released with the lever behind. I think I have finally ‘cracked’ storing it. Assuming my van’s build... ![vwcaliforniaclub.com](images\favicon.png) vwcaliforniaclub.com --- ### — 2024-11-10T11:46:43+0100 (Nov 10, 2024) > [Blue Yonder said:](/goto/post?id=729880) > > The Multivan platform based California now makes the Marco Polo a serious competitor. Make of that statement what you will. > > Click to expand... Nope, I would head straight for the Transit Nugget. Volkswagen is the most indebted company in the world. I wonder how long they have before its game over. I think you need to be seriously brave, buying into a Volkswagen at the minute… --- ### — 2024-11-10T16:06:57+0100 (Nov 10, 2024) > [soulstyledevon said:](/goto/post?id=729894) > > Nope, > I would head straight for the Transit Nugget. > > Volkswagen is the most indebted company in the world. I wonder how long they have before its game over. > > I think you need to be seriously brave, buying into a Volkswagen at the minute… > > Click to expand... I like the Nugget as a camper, but not as a tourer or day tripper. The Nugget kitchen can't be used unless the pop top is opened and the upper bed is in the upright position. No coffee in the morning while the other half is still upstairs in bed. No coffee on the road when you're using the van as an office. You should consider the City Dreamer. I saw it recently as a 7 seater with kitchen block on the side and double sliding doors on a Ford Transit base. It actually looked quite nice at an affordable price. [City by Dreamer](https://city.dreamer-van.fr/?lang=en#presentation-modele) ---