# Just seen this online. I never knew this.....

**Source:** https://vwcaliforniaclub.com/threads/just-seen-this-online-i-never-knew-this.52199/  
**Posts:** 8

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###  — 2023-12-12T20:33:29+0100 (Dec 12, 2023)

[MSN](https://www.msn.com/en-gb/cars/news/bigger-isn-t-always-better-for-campervans/ar-AA1i2rSs?ocid=msedgntp&pc=EDGEDSE&cvid=cbb5d90e1ecf44a187a44c4090d2eb6d&ei=152)

  
With particular attention to this statement...  
  
"And, while [Ford](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/cars/ford/) has eyed the leisure camper market with envious eyes for years, it has struggled to match the history and appeal of the [VW Camper](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/cars/classic/volkswagen-type-2-samba-ultimate-camper-van-70/).  
  
What’s more, [Volkswagen](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/cars/volkswagen/) is fiercely guarding its hard-won territory, which stretches back to the very early 1950s when Westfalia actually built VW’s campers. The VW California range will not be included in the next part of the collaborative agreement with Ford, to combine the one-ton Transit Custom and the VW Transporter T7 on the same chassis and build them in Turkey. When that happens in a couple of years, VW’s California will move from its current T6.1 Transporter base to its own unique MQB Microbus platform. So, yah boo sucks to Detroit from Wolfsburg, then."

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###  — 2023-12-12T23:43:27+0100 (Dec 12, 2023)

Interesting potential final chess move from VW considering the length and complexity of posts here over the last year singing the virtues of the “upcoming” Ford platform based VW Camper.  
  
Hopefully this puts to bed the silliness of a VW/Ford crossover camper.  
  
If anyone wants an inferior van, go buy a Nugget ![;)](data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7 "Wink    ;)")

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###  — 2023-12-13T00:32:35+0100 (Dec 13, 2023)

Not sure I would take Andrew English @The Telegraph as the last word on the matter. That article is also 2 months old. Whether or not there is a Transit Cali version will depend of many factors such as VW's continuing financial woes, the success (or not) of the MV Concept concept to mention 2. We will know more in '24.

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###  — 2023-12-13T09:23:17+0100 (Dec 13, 2023)

New Transit looks great…  
Old and new.  
  

![IMG_0912.jpeg](images/img_0912-jpeg.117310 "IMG_0912.jpeg")

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###  — 2023-12-13T09:46:48+0100 (Dec 13, 2023)

> [soulstyledevon said:](/goto/post?id=676500)
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> New Transit looks great…  
> Old and new.  
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> [View attachment 117310](https://vwcaliforniaclub.com/attachments/117310/)
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Looks a bit too American. Previously Ford's European market offerings seem to at least diluted the American styling. It's still bigger and more suited to camper use that that funny little egg on wheels VW proposing to use though.

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###  — 2023-12-13T09:49:49+0100 (Dec 13, 2023)

The Ford Alhambra/VW Sharan was one of the worst vehicles either ever made imo.

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###  — 2023-12-13T09:59:11+0100 (Dec 13, 2023)

> [Lee.Van.Cleef said:](/goto/post?id=676503)
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> Looks a bit too American.
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That was my impression too, looking at the design cues.

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###  — 2023-12-13T14:44:12+0100 (Dec 13, 2023)

> [Lambeth Cali said:](/goto/post?id=676504)
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> The Ford Alhambra/VW Sharan was one of the worst vehicles either ever made imo.
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Works for me, it’s easier to buy brake pads for a Galaxy than my van for some reason!

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